Episode 362

Is it Really Uncurable? (feat. Dr. Aaron Hartman)

Published on: 8th July, 2026

What if the word uncurable really just means a doctor has run out of ideas? This episode dares you to question that verdict and discover a functional medicine approach built on gut health, trace minerals, and nervous system repair that has helped many people defy impossible odds and rewrite a hopeless diagnosis into a story of hope.

Host Jenn Trepeck welcomes Dr. Aaron Hartman to Salad with a Side of Fries, where he shares how chronic illness recovery starts with the basics everyone overlooks, and why patients in remission from conditions like multiple sclerosis prove healing is possible even when doctors say there is nothing more they can do.

What You Will Learn in This Episode:

✅ Why the label “incurable” often just means idiopathic (unknown cause) and how functional medicine looks deeper

✅ How gut health, sleep, and stress form the foundation of true chronic illness recovery

✅ The connection between hypermobility, dysautonomia, mast cell activation, and autoimmune disease

✅ Why organ meats, bone broth, and trace minerals support the nervous system and healing

The Salad With a Side of Fries podcast, hosted by Jenn Trepeck, explores real-life wellness and weight-loss topics, debunking myths, misinformation, and flawed science surrounding nutrition and the food industry. Let’s dive into real-life wellness and weight loss, including drinking, eating out, and skipping the grocery store.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Introduction to this episode on functional medicine and rethinking an incurable diagnosis

03:47 Dr. Aaron Hartman explains cerebral palsy and his daughter Anna's dire early diagnosis

07:17 Why incurable and idiopathic are labels Dr. Hartman refuses to accept and exploring the mast cell activation, hypermobility, autoimmune, gut, and dysautonomia super syndrome

15:28 The big three foundations of gut health, stress regulation, and quality sleep for healing

21:41 Why trace minerals, organ meats, and bone broth matter for true nutrient-dense nutrition

24:38 Practical sleep hygiene tips rooted in circadian rhythm and nervous system regulation

28:58 Balancing sugar addiction and dopamine-driven cravings with real food healing habits

31:43 How the body's self-healing capacity applies at any age, from childhood through adulthood

37:12 Lipid medicine: Using fats to heal your body

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

💎 An incurable diagnosis often just means a doctor has run out of answers, not that healing is impossible

💎 Gut health, stress regulation, and quality sleep are the foundation every chronic illness recovery plan needs

💎 The body retains a self-healing capacity at any age, though how well it heals depends on how well it is supported

💎 Vetted health information and a skilled clinician matter more than trending advice from social media

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Dr. Aaron Hartman's journey with functional medicine started when he & his wife adopted their first daughter from foster care. She has cerebral palsy & countless dietary issues. They went from specialist to specialist and, even as a physician, he felt let down & confused. His daughter's health struggles forced him to confront an uncomfortable realization: Our current healthcare system doesn't have all the answers. His wife, however, refused to give up hope. She ultimately pointed him to functional medicine. His daughter & other two kids began to thrive. After years in family practice, he felt called to make a dramatic shift.

He now helps patients identify leverage points in key areas of their lifestyle & health that harness their body's remarkable power to heal and begin living the vibrant life they deserve. He has become the ‘go-to’ doctor for difficult cases in central Virginia.

Dr. Hartman’s new book, UnCurable: From Hopeless Diagnosis to Defying All Odds, chronicles his personal and professional journey focusing on his daughter's diagnosis, the medical system's treatment options and the road Aaron was forced to take to get his girl the best care possible.

As a clinical researcher, Dr. Hartman has been involved in over 70 clinical studies; he is the founder of the Virginia Research Center and currently serves as an Assistant Clinical Professor of Family Medicine at the VCU School of Medicine.

In 2016, he founded Richmond Integrative and Functional Medicine, where he focuses on caring for complex patients who have fallen through the cracks in our current health care system.

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QUOTES:

01:03 "This week we're talking about a word that can be really scary, and that word is uncurable." - Jenn Trepeck

09:20 "There are these commonalities in a bunch of different diagnoses, and they tend to be this immune response or an activation in the body." - Jenn Trepeck

20:12 "Quality and quantity of sleep, nutrients, and the quality of our food help send safety signals to the nervous system." - Jenn Trepeck

27:23 “If you really want your body to get on a healing pathway, you're gonna have to do some hard things.” - Dr. Aaron Hartman

30:49 "If you wanna have an outcome you don't see your friends having, you have to be willing to do things that your friends aren't doing." - Dr. Aaron Hartman

32:03 "When you're told there's nothing else that can be done for you, that just means there's nothing else that they can do for you." - Dr. Aaron Hartman

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About the Podcast

Salad With a Side of Fries Nutrition, Wellness & Weight Loss
Nutrition tips that actually work. Real-life healthy eating, balanced diet tools, and weight loss tips you can use today with coach Jenn Trepeck.*

If you have searched for nutrition tips, tried to keep a healthy lifestyle, or felt stuck following popular weight loss tips, this podcast is for you. Get straightforward wellness advice that works in real life, plus strategies for a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, and a smarter approach to fitness and nutrition. Is your diet making you hungrier, crankier, or less healthy? Tune in and find out.*

Free gift: Schedule a 15-minute curiosity call with Jenn to explore what is possible for you. https://asaladwithasideoffries.com/contact/

Welcome to Salad with a Side of Fries, where wellness meets real life. Award-winning host Jenn Trepeck, health and lifestyle coach and author of Uncomplicating Wellness, cuts through the noise with clear answers you can trust. Ranked in the top 1.5% of podcasts worldwide, the show won Ear Worthy’s Best Health Podcast in 2024 and 2025 and was nominated for Best Independent Podcast both years. Jenn also won Women Who Podcast’s Stellar Interview award in 2025 after being named one of Podcast Magazine’s 40 under 40 in 2022.

Jenn’s motto is “wellness without the weirdness.” With more than 17 years coaching after solving her own food struggles, she knows how confusing the industry can be. Each week you get the foundations of a balanced diet, sustainable healthy eating, metabolism basics, and long-term holistic health, plus straight talk on fad diets and supplements.

What you will get by listening:
✅How to eat and how to cheat, guilt-free
✅Nutrition tips that work in the real world
✅Weight loss tips that are effective, never restrictive
✅How to build a balanced plate at home, on the road, and eating out
✅Smart strategies for sustainable habits that include your favorite foods
✅Evidence-based insights on fitness and nutrition
✅Conversations about holistic health that go beyond food
✅Wellness advice you can use right away


About Jenn Trepeck:
Jenn is a health coach, speaker, and consultant who blends humor with practical science. She has helped thousands improve energy, metabolism, and confidence in their choices through one-on-one coaching, group programs, her book, and this podcast.

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If you are ready to trade guilt for freedom, confusion for clarity, and boring salads for fries on the side, press play. Health gets doable here.

*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This podcast and its guests are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

About your host

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Jennifer Trepeck

“My passion for nutrition and helping others stems from “kicking my food issues” with my own weight management saga.” ~ Jenn

I believe that the greatest accountability is paying it forward! That’s why I teach the nutrition education we are all supposed to know but no one ever taught us, along with the science behind food, fitness, and health.

After I graduated from the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, I founded Better Life Now LLC while working full-time in hedge funds. In 2019, I took my practice from side-hustle to full-time self-employment and launched my podcast, Salad With a Side of Fries. On the show, we offer science-based tips and tricks for how to achieve wellness and weight loss for real life – because who wants a life without fries or dessert?!

Topics we tackle on the podcast include debunking fad diets, food myths, misinformation in marketing, bad science, and general nutrition. I encourage guests whose expertise is different from my own focus on weight management to bring their unique, fact-based perspectives to talk about subjects they are educated in and passionate about.

Due to my decade-long experience of working with clients, I have gained insight into the health and food industry and the how-tos of building a business.

Some specific health and wellness topics I can speak to include debunking fad diets, exposing the BS we are fed by the food and diet industry, how the people around us can positively and negatively impact our health journey, and shifting mindsets in order to overcome inappropriate barometers of success to instead achieve happy, healthy, and meaningful change.

On the subject of business, I can help you by teaching my critical pieces every entrepreneur should know, how to make your side-hustle into your full-time job, ways to sustainably achieve success without burning out, contemporary networking, and how to prioritize wellness while pursuing your projects.

When I find some free time, I’m typically working out at Physique57, discovering hidden gem restaurants in NYC, or traveling to spend time with friends and family.

I’d love to have an in-depth conversation with you, whether it’s leveling up in business or debunking food myths!